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Tuesday, August 27, 2024

What Do We Do With All This Stuff?

 Across the evening sky
All the birds are leaving
But how can they know
It's time for them to go?
Before the winter fire
I will still be dreaming
I have no thought of time
For who knows where the time goes?
Who knows where the time goes?

Sad, deserted shore
Your fickle friends are leaving
Ah, but then you know
It's time for them to go
But I will still be here
I have no thought of leaving
I do not count the time
For who knows where the time goes?
Who knows where the time goes?

And I am not alone
While my love is near me
I know it will be so
Until it's time to go
So come the storms of winter
And then the birds in spring again
I have no fear of time
For who knows how my love grows?

And who knows where the time goes?


Morning folks - hope you've got your black jumpsuit on, because today's post is concerned with death and what to do about all the detritus you will inevitably leave behind! 
Oh yes, it's a right old morbid smörgåsbord of early morning thinking, confusion, inevitability and good old:

"Feck Me . . I am how old??!! . .  but I was ONLY 17 a few years back . . . "

I find it weirdly satisfying in some way that Sandy Denny (writer and singer of the lyrics at the start) had a grandparent who was a Dundonian . . anyway, that's grist for another mill, though I have to say lyrically, with relations and friends embattled by the rigours of life, that song rings to me like a bell on a clear morning.


© Phil Rogers, Dundee,Archival Storage,
Taking A Trip In A Caravan
(The sort of image that will never survive. Never printed, just scanned.
Found in the nether-regions of my computer.)
Olympus Trip/Caravan/Autumn/Agfacolor.


So, my post today concerns photographs and how the hell do you handle them in the event of someone dropping off their perch.  
Unfortunately, having re-read it umpteen times, it is largely devoid of advice or ideas and is more a random collection of thoughts about clog poppin'.

"Say wha??"

Well, you can't avoid it, it is going to happen. 
You might hide in the corner clutching your head, but somewhere down the line the Grim Reaper is going to camp out in your garden and demand some sort of restitution. 
So what do you do?

That's a hard one, because actually I am not sure you can do anything, except prepare as much as you can and then that's it. 
The hardware is fine, there's no problems with that - in fact you could really deal with all that stuff in one word . . and no it's not necessarily Ebay, so, got your Ikea meatball meal deal ready?:

Döstädning!

Go on have a laugh at my expense why dontcha.
Ee's off 'is trolly!

The concept is a simple one - you divulge yourself of stuff that might be really useful to someone else down the line (in age). 
After all as you get older, stuff becomes a burden - this could be a solution and might make you feel good too. You don't really need 15 Paterson tanks and 8 Kodak Beehives (just in case) do you? That old Meopta enlarger you upgraded from in 1996 and that takes up about two large suitcases worth of space . . surely there's someone out there that could use it as a learning tool. Of course, I know you'll say, well they'll just sell it anyway, to which I would say, fine, let them try and pack it properly!
It's a thought.
I didn't come up with the concept, but I quite like it. In an ideal world, where people weren't trying to squeeze every last penny out of everything, then it could almost be considered utopian. 

But that's about getting rid of useful stuff - what about those archival boxes you have filled with your entire photographic output? 
I have a friend who has everything - from a first film made on a parent's camera, right the way through to now with 12 mega-terabyte drives (for storage and backup). 
But backup for what? 
Are his children going to keep all of those drives? 
And how do they share it around? 
What happens if they were to slim it down to say one and it fails?
And what about the physical stuff   - a lifetime of negatives and prints? Are they really going to look through every single photo their father has taken? 
It is a massive burden acquiring stuff, but it is an even more massiver burden acquiring custody of someone else's stuff. 
So what do you do?

Pretty much without exception, most families are exactly the same - we've got PHYSICAL photographs (yes I know there are exceptions based upon monetary and sociological factors - please bear in mind I am generalising based upon my own experience.) 
And it's not just a handful of photographs, no, that would be too easy; it is TONS of them and not only that, but tons of them picturing the most ephemeral and trite things as well. 
Boxes (or if you were sensible paper envelopes) filled to the brim with multiple out of focus snaps of birthdays and scenic snaps and a delphinium that your Gran had - the list is as endless as it is incomprehensible why someone took a picture of a squashed cup-cake anyway.
 
Added to this, I don't think anyone anywhere has gone:
 
I know we should really curate these because somewhere down the line someone is going to have to go through this.

Though actually that's not quite true - my wife and I kind of did back in the day - the best were stuck in albums, and the remainders and corresponding negatives shoved back into their envelopes and put away somewhere. 
But the thing is, they have never gone anywhere and ultimately, they remain as a MASSIVE headache for our progeny, or the next door neighbours when they're wondering what the smell is. 
Our (carefully curated remember) albums now occupy a whole large shelf, that will either have to be taken on board, or . . . 
 
My own personal photographic output occupies six CXD archival boxes . . . and that is just the negatives
When you factor in the print boxes/old paper boxes stuffed with prints, I start to wonder, is my family really going to want to go through all this when they possibly have a whole house to clear? 
Or is it more likely the case that they're going to cherry pick.
And the rest? . . . well who knows . . .

When I put it like that it is kind of depressing isn't it? 
You start to think, actually is there any point in this?

When my Mother died, my sister and her kids cleared the house. 
Living 400-odd miles away and working full time I was unable to help, so consequently, anything from my early life that my Mother still had (it wasn't much, but it was something) got chucked or given away.
There was nothing particularly valuable, it was just sentimental junk
But that's not the point.
Some things you have with you for years; for instance my copy of Lord Of The Rings was given to me at Christmas, in 1974, and I have read it around 28 times. 
It has fallen apart, but now has an ignominious chunk of Japanese framing tape obscuring the lovely spine . . . yet I refuse to give it up in favour of the other very nice editions we have in the house, simply because it is mine and stained with my patina; and, to an extent it is imbued with me.
You could probably call it sentimental junk, but strangely sentimental junk counts for a great deal in the human condition.
But the question is: WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO IT?

In an ideal world, we'd reach the end of our lives in some sort of psuedo-hippy white room, with little or no possessions (the key thinking being that they are things that tie your soul to the earth) before we are whisked off on The Cosmik VW Space-Combi to Nirvana. 
I sort of get that, so chuck the hotdogs on the Bar-B now. 

But although we're the stuff of stars, we're also made from the heavy layers of earth and rock and water beneath us; we're as tied to the planet as one could possibly be. 
Sure, all thoughts of the soul lifting free and soaring off to some cosmic plane . . well, who knows? 
Yet as humans here we are, farting, eating, breeding, contemplating . . and, for want of a better phrase, gaining earthly chains.
Jings, you don't half acquire them don't you?! 
In the past few years I've encountered people's hoards, the likes of which the ancients would have considered treasure troves . . but in our modern world of plenty, it is just STUFF.

And it is the autopsical handling of stuff that is the most difficult. 

I was recently talking to a neighbour and she said something along the lines of:

"Why worry about it? It won't be your problem. Enjoy it now and let it become someone else's problem."

I can get that.
But I can also get that someone, somewhere will have to deal with it.

It's no surprise that house clearances are so popular - the lure of a Leica IIIg in a box of old towels; a Maserati quietly rusting in a garage . . .
When the time comes and someone has to clean up the remnants of your life, their temptation will be to quickly scout through everything looking for valuables, and the rest . . well the rest will probably just get chucked.
And sadly, for us as photographers, that probably means all our efforts in the form of negatives and prints and hard drives. 
Don't worry about the tools . . someone will want the tools; but the form, the architecture of creation; your creative urges writ large . . well, sadly, unless you were well known, then I doubt anyone will give a shit.

So what does one do with thousands of negatives; hundreds of prints; 12 terabytes of digitalness?

I actually don't know.

Are they of any worth? 
Only to you my friend, only to you.

Even the great auction houses in the home of serious photography (America) won't take negatives. 
They only want vintage prints, and even then I doubt they want the work prints, oh no. 
The scrap copy of Moonrise over Hernandez with the giant coffee stain on it . . probably in a pile somewhere . . but a signed edition? well that is a different story. 
And a different story in that we're talking about one of the masters
Old Joe Soap from Wigan or Ohio, or Sienna or Dubrovnik, or Cobh or  Beattock . . well fuggedaboutit.

This was hammered home to me recently due to a family thing, whereby I had cause to riffle through a part of my family hoard of snaps that weren't in my house.
There were hundreds of prints all loosely gathered in plastic bags and boxes, flying free from their old printers' envelopes and not a negative in sight. 
The shoe boxes I had organised them into some 30 years back with the help of my Mum's memory were nowhere to be seen.
And this was kind of important, because after all, snaps going back 40+ years. . . who remembers who these people were
That person with the standard lamp shade on their head? 
The dog in the cardigan? 
A small girl playing at a kitten's tea party in a sunny room somewhere.
The boy/man floating dead in a canal?

Who are they and why are there photographs of them?

Our stabs at immortality in the form of documenting the fleetingness of life through photography (sic) are worth nothing if nobody knows who/what/where/when/you/we/they/are/were and why.

When I put it like that, I kind of wonder is there actually any point in a photograph?

When all you have left is a random image of 'somewhere' or 'someone' and nobody knows where it was or who it was, or even what they were doing . . why document it in the first place?

I need to go and have a big think now, because in the typing of all this, I have asked myself a series of questions I am not comfortable with.

Several weeks and gallons of tea later . . . 


Approximately 1949.
This recent find hasn't scanned well because of the glazing of the photograph.
The print is a contact print.


Approximately Mid-1940's
Another extraordinary find.
I think the lighting is terrific.


So I guess the point of a photograph, is to bring into existence a moment of time that is relevant to you, the photographer (and anyone with you involved in said moment of time).
And that is it (well actually that is partly it.) 
When you depart this plane, that moment of time kind of ceases to have any relevance, because everything that was ever behind it is gone. 
If you are survived by others in the photograph, then the relevance is still there until they too face the inevitable and shuffle off into The Cosmic Corner
At that point the photograph carries on existing, but only as evidence of a slice of time with a little relevance. 
Like the above two gems (unseen by me until a month ago) it becomes a 'historical' artefact. 
However when you look at photos like that, you can see that the life of a photograph isn't quite as dead-end as it might at first appear to be.

But I think that all depends on the subject matter - apart from family photos, this 'historical' relevance might become more important if the photograph is what is now colloquially known as 'street' (or indeed any documentation of the fleetingness of 'modernity'.) 
A friend from the Forum (Hi Neil!) has a wonderful collection of snaps from around Dundee in the late 1970's early '80's and they are true historical documents of a City undergoing change and that has largely vanished.
In cases such as that, I think the photograph can live on.

But can it live on when it is (as a huge amount of hobbyist photography appears to be these days) ANOTHER picture of some flowers with massive amounts of bokeh, or ANOTHER woodland, or ANOTHER abandoned building, SOMEWHERE?
I have to say (and I mean no disrespect) that the ease of digital photography in being able to produce, say, fifteen images when just ONE would have sufficed, has resulted in an explosion of truly terrible photography. 
Yeah I know, you're saying:

"My Dad used to take loads of horrific pictures of us with his Instamatic" 

however in my opinion, it is just too damn easy to make something look 'acceptable' and there is now so much of it (please, check Flickr [look for your favourite lens f'rintance] . . some very good stuff on there, but also a hell of a lot of bilge) that often it is impossible to lift one image out of the morass, because that morass is now so huge, and, dare I say it, so professional looking!
It is almost like trying to fish a floating sweety wrapper that you lost out of the Pacific Gyre.

And, it is all Petabytes of data, just lying around on servers, doing little, and rarely looked at.
My friend can take 300 images in a couple of hours - I doubt (as a film photographer) that I take 300 images in 6 months.
It is stuff, stuff and even more stuff, with little thought to the future, or indeed the environmental impact of such energy usage concerned with storing stuff that nobody will look at!

But back to the meat and potatoes . . can a photograph truly survive in a post-maker environment?

As regular readers will know I love good landscape photography, so here's some thinking about that.

I might say that some of the skill of the truly great landscape photographers is such that their eye and personal deep feeling for landscape somehow imbues the image with something other than it just being a picture of a scene. 
(Please note this is entirely different for what passes for most landscape photography today.)
I'd like to call it (loosely) ATMOSPHERE. (Friend Bruce might call it UB [Unsubstantiated Bollocks].)
It can exist in a photograph. 
That's not bullshit, I tend to regard that as fact.
And somehow that twilight dust present at the taking of the photograph, sifts its way down through the years after the image was recorded; the photographer's feelings and emotional interaction with the landscape and what they did with the resulting cosmic mess (that is a negative) carries on in a physical form (the print).
So much so that maybe someone, somewhere down the line will look at that print and say:

"Oh!"

and that image will transcend time and come to mean something to another viewer in another place. 
That is the happy outcome. 
In decades to come, Michael Kenna's or Paul Caponigro's prints, won't just be consigned to the skip of eternity - no way hosepipe.

And what about the records of moments in time? 
Well they already have cojones in spades, simply by dint of the fact that they are a recording of a (perhaps important) thing that sprang into being and ended, but someone was there to capture it.
You'll know them by their triumphs and tragedies, yet they live on.
Donald McCullin's photographs will survive any bombardment.

And it's funny, I can still look at a photograph by Clarence H. White and be moved to tears. I've no idea why. Spirituality was important to him, and each photograph, though seemingly 'dull' on the surface carries with it a weight of soul. 
His soul. 
These are images made over 100 years ago, yet they can still speak. It's weird isn't it?

So I suppose what I am trying to say, is that there is a point to a photograph (phew.)
The above pictures of my parents as young(er) people helped me visualise (along with copious letters) their world. In truth these paper-thin slices of silver gelatin and time moved me to tears.
Somehow they've survived for nearly 80 years without any great care.
To me they have a point.

But is there any point to the mountains of snaps and the general day-to-day picture taking that we (well I can only really talk about me) generally do? 
I will often go out and waste and hour or two with my camera taking pictures of the same things I have taken pictures of before. 
I do it, because I enjoy the process AND because sometimes I'll develop a film and go "Aha!"
And whilst the Ahas won't win me any awards, they're a reflection of my creativity and creative urges.

But they don't half add up to a pile of pointless stuff that someone else will have to deal with.

My friend Bruce says he'd rather just have a greatest hits left rather than a whole archive.
Books is his big answer, but he has still to make one (not chiding Bruce, btw . . . ) 
For years I have railed against this, but in reality, his approach is probably pretty sane
It's something the kids can look at and admire, rather than having to trawl through 20,000+ negatives and go:

"Jeez Dad didn't half take some crappy pictures! What the Feck are we going to do with all this?"

Ah you see, because behind all our endeavours is also the fact that leaving a mountain of stuff behind also means we're loading guilt and angst onto our descendants, who have to decide what to do with it:

"Have you got room for all this?" 

"Nope, me neither . . . "

In all my years of writing this blog, I think these are the hardest questions I have ever posed:

WHAT DO WE DO WITH ALL THIS STUFF? 

HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO WINNOW A LIFETIME OF IMAGE MAKING? 

SHOULD WE EVEN CARE AND JUST LEAVE IT TO CHANCE? 

I really don't know, but I'd love to know your thoughts, because really I think I have only just scratched the surface.
Anyway, the question is out there now. 
No doubt (as I've found with some of my articles) some enterprising bod will nick the idea to get some clicks and it will become more of a general question.
And I hope that when you come in to have your card marked, you have some damn good ideas, because frankly I haven't got a clue.

So, answers on a postcard please to:

H. Sheephouse
Sheephouse Towers
Fleeceville
Sheepcestershire
BB1 BB2

If I get a decent response, I'll publish them as a separate post, say in a few weeks time . . . .

Comments can be read on this 'ere link 'ere.

As always thanks for reading.
H xx





Wednesday, April 24, 2024

A Nice Refreshing Breeze

Morning folks - I hope you are all feeling tip-top and chipper, rather than feeling you've done 15 rounds with 18 white pudding suppers from The Chipper (you'll only get that if you're East Coast Scottish).
Hmmm - what's that lovely smell? 
It certainly isn't the wonderful aroma of diluted acetic acid liberally sloshed all over freshly-fried potatoes along with enough salt to construct a model of a Leica M2 . . nor is it that heady mixture of deep fried batter, fish and cigarette smoke drifting down the prevailing breeze on the Blackie! 
(Again, you'll only get that if you've ever been to the nether-regions of Dundee).
No!
It's the smell of change. 
God. 
AT LAST!


1+100 Rodinal,80mm f2.8,Red Filter,Analogue Photography,© Phil Rogers,Mamiya C330F,Dundee,Tri-X Ei 800,Analog Photography,Black And White Printing,Darkroom,
Ghost Of A Jute Mill


We were recently on a short but lovely family holiday to York. 
It was great, but seeing as we've done the place to death, this time, we explored more of the older pubs, of which there are quite a few. I am now actually of a mind to think, you can really get the measure of a place from its older pubs. 
We did the same in Brussels last year and it was eye-opening. 
However the smell of change wasn't just that wonderful afternoon feeling of a couple of pints and some really good chat. No. 
It was the curious metallically-musty smell of a newly opened camera back!
Yep - film cameras. 
I saw THREE
This is a new record for a trip away (I have recorded the film cameras I've seen on holiday religiously for years) so I can only assume that there's a fresh breeze whistling up the kilts of enthused amateurs like myself. 
How is it in your part of the world?

A couple of months back, I accosted a chap on Dundee's High Street, because he was carrying a Leica M6. 
I know, the sheer affrontary, but I couldn't just let him walk on by. 
I had my Rollei with me, so it was very much a case of 'show me yours and I'll show you mine'. 
He also said:
 
"You're not that bloke from here that writes that blog are you?" 

Outed. 
I couldn't believe it. 
And if you are reading this, hail and well-met squire!

Then in York, THREE film cameras:
A Praktika; a small rangefinder and an ME Super (so surprised was I by seeing that, that I actually walked up to the young woman and admired it - she said she loved it and it had been her fathers).
Include me with an M2/35mm Summaron and that's a few cameras.

And then, last week, I was out with the Mamiya C330, wasting a roll of Tri-X with a view to pushing it to 800 and developing it in Rodinal (sic) at 1+100. 
The pics were crap but the experiment worked. 
And there I was, standing in Blackscroft, wondering what to point my lens at, when a young woman shouted across the road at me: 

"MEDIUM FORMAT!" 

I was so shocked my false teeth nearly shot out. 
I said "Pardon?" and again she said "Medium Format" to which I said "Yes!" 
I crossed the road and asked her if she was a film user and indeed she was, a Pentax K1000 and she "loved it"! 
As we parted I shouted:
 
"Never stop using film."
 
and she said:

"I won't, I love it!"

I was chuffed as a chuffing chuffer in a chuffed-up competition. This is fantastic


1+100 Rodinal,80mm f2.8,Red Filter,Analogue Photography,© Phil Rogers,Mamiya C330F,Dundee,Tri-X Ei 800,Analog Photography,Black And White Printing,Darkroom,
Tri-X Ei 800, 1+100 Rodinal and Red Filter.
Mamiya C330 + 80mm f2.8


1+100 Rodinal,80mm f2.8,Red Filter,Analogue Photography,© Phil Rogers,Mamiya C330F,Dundee,Tri-X Ei 800,Analog Photography,Black And White Printing,Darkroom,
Tri-X Ei 800, 1+100 Rodinal and Red Filter.
Mamiya C330 + 80mm f2.8


I am pleased though, I'll tell you that. 
Myself and all the wee bloggers like myself who have been banging on about film for years . . maybe we've just been preaching to the wrong sorts, because in that time there's been a groundswell, albeit small, in people finding that actually film is fun, satisfying and educational in a skill-set sort of way.
Gosh - I hope we get badges or something.

There's an amendum to this - I've said before that I frequent Dundee's DCA Photography Forum - it's always been great, though I am one of the very few film users and pretty much the only darkroom user. Well, last time, there was a chap there who said he's just recently made his first darkroom prints and couldn't wait to get back in and make some more (he uses the DCA's own hireable darkroom). 
Oh boy, I was in heaven. 
Someone I can talk to about printing

And maybe that's where this wee upswell could continue growing. 
Home darkrooms
Or public ones, but home ones are good - there's no time pressures.

You know in recent times I've seen not-that-old Meopta Medium Format enlargers selling for well under £100. 
Now probably people in the market for an enlarger are thinking:
 
'Oh no, I NEED a DeVere, or a Kaiser or something with a Heiland head or stuff like that.'
 
To which I will say to you - YOU EMPHATICALLY DO NOT! 

Meoptas' (or older Dursts or LPLs, or even a good condition Leitz) are actually excellent little enlargers - very well made and solid with everything you need and nothing you don't. 
They're simple. 
Like printing

It is a really easy process and does not need super-computers or professional analysers to deal with exposing a bit of coated paper. 
Sure you can go as complex as you want, obviously, but in the initial stages it is all about learning the craft, and that doesn't have to be too expensive if you move along the RC paper route ***
What printing does need, is enthusiasm; an ability to take some (sometimes) considerable knocks in confidence, but above all else an ability to take it on the chin and keep going. That doesn't sound like FUN but I swear to you that it is - it's wonderful actually and in my opinion at least half of what makes you a 'photographer' - well it is at least half of what makes me a photographer.
Anyway, that's an aside. 
Things are moving. 

*** As an aside to this I urge Ilford to please watch the pricing on paper, because it would be quite easy to kill 'wet' printing stone dead. Having just been financially crippled from ordering 125 sheets of 8x10 MGFB, it doesn't half make you think twice; AND that's me speaking as a really enthusiastic printer . . . so Harman/Ilford, please . . watch it.

I'll not say much more than this:
If you are new to 'traditional' photography, Hello! well done, it's fun and hard work, but more the former than the latter. 
It can be as easy or as difficult as you wish, but that's up to you. 
At the end of the day it is ALL about expressing yourself. 

It might not be obvious, but that small miracle of metal/plastic/emulsion and glass that you're holding is a portal to creativity and self-expression. 
It's a time machine, a black hole and a conduit all at once.
It can frustrate and delight all on the same roll! 
Use it wisely and it can give you decades of pleasure (as long as they keep manufacturing film and paper). 
Treat it with respect and pleasure and it will repay you in spades.
In short, it's a wonderful thing.

And that's it - of course this could all be a herd of bullocks and a mere blip in the coincidence/time continuum, however, for the moment . . . 

There y'go - unusually for me - briefer than an ill-fitting pair of 1970's mustard-yellow Y-fronts.

Good luck folks!

Much love and respect.
H xx

Thursday, April 11, 2024

Rescuing Old Crap

Well folks, and a jolly top-o-the-morning to you!
Today's post is something that might interest those of you who have darkrooms (or even those of you who don't) . . . basically it is dealing with ancient materials.
I have no wish for this to be considered a 101 on old photographic materials - there's lots of info out there already; all I can do is present my own experiences over the years and add in some practicle titbits of advice which you can either accept as a voice of experience, or tell me to F-off in the most brusque manner . . . it is up to you!


Kodak Tri-X,Tetenal TT Vario RC Paper,Ilford MGRC, Processing Old Film,Analog Photography,Analogue Photography,Darkroom,Fomadon R09 1+50,Kodak HC 110,© Phil Rogers,Dundee,
My Favourite.
There’s Something A Bit Hipgnosis About This.
Ancient Tri-X/Ancient Tetenal TT/Grade 4


Film and paper - gosh there's a lot of it out there!
As old photographers die, their relatives shove the stuff up on Ebay at a rate of knots. Look! some of them even open the black plastic bags full of paper and photograph the paper, just so you can see what great condition it is in! 
Film! 
I find it incredible that someone wants to buy film that expired in 1999 for a new project, when they could just as easily spend a bit less and get something that is fresher and more likely to deliver PREDICTABLE results. 
Yes folks it is true, at some point down the old film route, you'll meet Mr. N. Tropy and you know what, he ain't happy. Of course that's OK if you really don't mind wasting your time and efforts, but for me, I'd rather err on the side of caution.

I've been rather taken aback recently with some first-hand experience of the dread Ilford Backing Paper Mottle, because, strangely, it is not a consistently predictable defect
I've had it occur on some very old film indeed (Pan F) and yet Delta 100 with the same expiry (presumably manufactured around the same time) has been absolutely fine. 
Indeed Pan F from the same batch has been fine! 
FP4+ that expired a couple of years ago - 75% of the batch it was from has been fine so far and yet I had another roll from the same batch with the mottle. 
It is frustrating, annoying, upsetting and baffling, all at the same time. 
So basically what I am saying is that before you spend whatever on 20 rolls of Ilford whatever on Ebay that expired a few years back . . think twice. You've no idea how the film has been stored, nor whether you'll get mottled . . . 
Film is fairly hermatically sealed in that foil and yet some of the explanations I have seen for it have included atmospheric conditions! Hmmmm.

But anyway, that's an aside, albeit a worrying one . . . back to the meat and two veg of this post.

Our ‘old crap’ candidates for rescue were a roll of 120 Tri-X which was at the very least 30 years old, and a box of Tentenal TT RC paper, which, according to its previous custodian was at least 25 years old
That's over a quarter of a century of wear and tear. 
The Tri-X was paper/foil wrappered - not plastic - there was no date on it.

Being a bit of a twat, I thought what the hell, shoved it in the Hasselblad and took it down to Dundee's whale sculpture on a bright Winter's morning; snapping away just for the sheer pleasure of hearing a shutter go off. 
I had no preconceptions about these photos, they were just for fun
Getting home I thought that with film that old, I'd want to use a developer with some ooomph
In hindsight, this was daft thinking, but I'll not digress. 
I used HC 110, Dilution B, crossed my fingers and prayed to Ansel. 



Kodak Tri-X,Tetenal TT Vario RC Paper,Ilford MGRC, Processing Old Film,Analog Photography,Analogue Photography,Darkroom,Fomadon R09 1+50,Kodak HC 110,© Phil Rogers,Dundee,
Sorry No Light Table.
A Foggye Daye In Old Dundee Towne.


What emerged out of the fixer was OK-ish. 
I say OK-ish but there were large levels of base fog and even though I'd rated the film at EI 200, the negatives were quite underexposed in places (I can probably put this down to using a newly acquired Gossen Digisix, which I was unfamiliar with). Of course the base fog was at work too, rolling in like a grey version of the famous Dundee haar. 
So I made a contact print (again on really ancient Ilford Cooltone MGRC) looked at it and thought:

"Sheesh, what's the point?!”

And I put the whole thing aside . . . for a year.



Kodak Tri-X,Tetenal TT Vario RC Paper,Ilford MGRC, Processing Old Film,Analog Photography,Analogue Photography,Darkroom,Fomadon R09 1+50,Kodak HC 110,© Phil Rogers,Dundee,
Go On, Admit It. You Would Too.



But during that year, things changed a bit. I progressed a lot as a printer, simply because the lovely chap who gave me the Tetenal paper also gave me several hundred sheets of other papers - all well old (a minimum of 20 years) - I wasn't going to just ditch it, I was going to learn how to use it!
And I did - it was a steep curve. Fresher paper gives you wonderful blacks and crisp whites (mostly) but with some of the stuff I was using I was treated to muddy-greys and safari suit whites that had been dipped in dirty washing-up water. But the key thing is that I used its shortcomings as a learning curve - indeed most of the pictures I’ve published on this ‘ere blog in recent times (and my Instagram feed) are all scans off prints made on the self-same paper.

But back to that film/developer thing. Reading Anchell and Toop's 'Film Developing Cookbook' they said that the likes of Rodinal was far less likely to increase base fog than most other developers. Hmmmm, I thought - maybe the HC wasn't the best thing after all.
So having also been given nearly 70 rolls of truly ancient film, I started using Fomadon R09 at 1+50 and it has worked very well indeed. 
I'll sometimes use HC 110 (if the film isn't truly ancient) but mostly it has been Fomadon . . . and weirdly, also Perceptol. 
The thinking behind Perceptol is that although it is a solvent developer, it can really work with negatives with a broad tonal range. If you're knocking 3 or 4 stops off a film's box speed and pumping your exposures, why risk blasting the highlights? 
I’ve found Perceptol to be excellent in these sorts of situations - I use it at the Barry Thornton approved 1+2.

That's all well and good Sheepy, but warrabootthepapeeerman?

Ah yes, paper. 
A great deal depends on how it has been stored. 
The stuff I was given, had been, I think, bought in the Middle East, transported to New Zealand and then eventually back to the UK. 
It hadn't been frozen, just standard room temperatured. 
As I said before I wasn't going to just ditch it.

Well, straight outta the box the Tetenal (and indeed 30 years old Ilford MG) hit me with a brick of disappointment.
I tried to print them both at the notional 'standard' print of Grade 2 and got nowhere; the whole Grade 2 being the prime Grade for a print, is I believe an outdated concept, or at least it certainly has been for me. 
For many years I printed and aimed for a negative that would print on Grade 2. 
Having recently reviewed a lot of these archival prints I actually ended up chucking out a few hundred. Why? 
They were flat. 
As dead as a Dodo. 

Grade 2 whilst having a lovely spread of greys, really didn't do anything for the images - it’s probably the way I take ‘em - on the other hand Grade 3 and up did. 
So, with paper as ancient as we're talking about, your minimum starting point is Grade 3 (actually Ilford recommend [if you’re using a diffusion enalrger] that you print harder anyway). 
It will give you an averagely decent print (on the whole). 
I say that because, you'll probably find some of your Ebay chancers are actually fogged
Weirdly fogging isn't a consistent thing either. 
I was given (about 8 years back) some Agfa MCC from around the early 2000’s. 
My initial prints on it at Grade 2 were WTF? 
EVERYTHING was dull; even the paper base was dull. 
I tried some Benzotriazol and that's didn't cure anything either. 
In a fit of pique I thought I'll try one more, but at Grade 4. 
And you know what . . . the print was lovely, as was the rest of the box of paper. 
So, old Paper . . . Grade 3 minimum and maybe even more likely Grade 4. 
Fogging on the first sheet you grab? 
Delve deeper into the stack of paper and see what happens - like the Ilford Mottle it is NOT consistent.


Kodak Tri-X,Tetenal TT Vario RC Paper,Ilford MGRC, Processing Old Film,Analog Photography,Analogue Photography,Darkroom,Fomadon R09 1+50,Kodak HC 110,© Phil Rogers,Dundee,
Grade 3
Note Exposed Edge, Top Left



Kodak Tri-X,Tetenal TT Vario RC Paper,Ilford MGRC, Processing Old Film,Analog Photography,Analogue Photography,Darkroom,Fomadon R09 1+50,Kodak HC 110,© Phil Rogers,Dundee,
What A Difference A Grade Makes.
Grade 4



Kodak Tri-X,Tetenal TT Vario RC Paper,Ilford MGRC, Processing Old Film,Analog Photography,Analogue Photography,Darkroom,Fomadon R09 1+50,Kodak HC 110,© Phil Rogers,Dundee,
Grade 4 - Exposed Edge Top Left



Kodak Tri-X,Tetenal TT Vario RC Paper,Ilford MGRC, Processing Old Film,Analog Photography,Analogue Photography,Darkroom,Fomadon R09 1+50,Kodak HC 110,© Phil Rogers,Dundee,
Grade 4 Again - Not The Best Print Though



Kodak Tri-X,Tetenal TT Vario RC Paper,Ilford MGRC, Processing Old Film,Analog Photography,Analogue Photography,Darkroom,Fomadon R09 1+50,Kodak HC 110,© Phil Rogers,Dundee,
Still Looks Dull On Grade 4



Kodak Tri-X,Tetenal TT Vario RC Paper,Ilford MGRC, Processing Old Film,Analog Photography,Analogue Photography,Darkroom,Fomadon R09 1+50,Kodak HC 110,© Phil Rogers,Dundee,
Grade 5 Is Better, However I Misaligned The Image
 - Note The Rebate Is Showing Top Right Edge -



Kodak Tri-X,Tetenal TT Vario RC Paper,Ilford MGRC, Processing Old Film,Analog Photography,Analogue Photography,Darkroom,Fomadon R09 1+50,Kodak HC 110,© Phil Rogers,Dundee,
In The Words Of Robert Carlisle:
“Aaaah, That’s Better!"



With the Tetenal my starting point was Grade 3. 
But it was a no-no. 
Not exactly dull, just lacking in a bit of that old brass band OOMPA
Of course it has since occured to me that with these papers being ‘Pearl’ or ‘Lustre’ or basically anything slightly matt, you’re not going to get the same blast of euphoniums that you do with a good old glossy; however this is what I have at the moment. 
So next step - Grade 4 and then 5. 
And it worked. 
Although ye olde Tri-X negatives were pretty fogged and quite dense in places, the extra blast did the trick. 
It was like a whole new Tuba section wheeling on from a side street!

So, it can be done.
Take your time, make a nice print, double fix them, bit of toning and you’ve got something that should last as well as anything from a fresh source.

What I actually like about these photos is they are imperfect. In these days of software straightening everything, there’s none of that here. Yes I have converging verticals, yes they’re a bit squinty-woo . . . but I am not software.

As an ammendum to this whole process I found this little nugget on Ilford’s website:

CAN I STILL USE MY OLD OUT OF DATE PAPER?

We do not put expiry dates on paper as there are so many factors which influence how it will perform over time, for example, papers stored in cool dry conditions will fare better than those stored under more adverse conditions. Refrigerated papers will last even longer.

A simple print test will tell you if an old box of paper is performing to standard.

Well, I’ve got that to pushing 30 years so far . . . not too bad at all and sort of bodes well for the 1960’s box of Bromesco I have been given. 

As for you dear reader, of course you will be hit with the dread grey cat in a grey room - it’s bound to happen, but if you follow what I’ve said here and print at a harder Grade, hopefully you can skirt around it.
And remember if your lovely new batch of ancient film is smelling a bit funny . . . use Rodinal (sic).
And if you can’t be arsed, don’t blame me - YUMV as they say these days.

And that as they say, is that. 
Please remember I did this for fun and the learning process. 
It’s not ‘mission critical’. 
That’s probably why I’ve just ordered some fresh boxes of MGFB.
Over and oot.
H xx














Saturday, January 14, 2023

Afternoon Delight

Q: Got a ton of old negatives that you have not a clue what to do with and you're worried about the Cost Of Living Crisis and energy coasts?

A: Get yourself a darkroom - simple as that. 


Morning folks - you know it says something when the darkroom is the warmest room in the house, but this Winter this is proving to be the case - jings, even Olive Oil solidified in our kitchen!
  
But it is very different in the darkroom - I can snuggle up tight in there, heating myself with nothing more than a constant temperature (it used to be a wine cellar); the intermittent use of a 250W bulb; one 15W safelight and the white heat of creativity 😎.

It works a treat

Grey days drift away in a flurry of activity lit red. 
Ice on the windows? 
No problem, hunker down in the darkroom and learn.
Sun not risen at all today?
Take up thy fixer and walk (or kneel in my case).


© Phil Rogers Dundee, Monochrome Printing, Darkroom, Ilford, Foma,Black And White Printing,Craft,Kodak Selenium Toner,Secol Archival Sleeves
5x4" Negative,
Fomabrom Variant 111, Kodak Selenium,
Adox Neutol NE Developer


Regular readers will know that when I was a young man, pretty much what I wanted to do with life was print. 
Regular readers will also know that what happened was not what I expected and economic circumstance led to an entirely different path. 
Well, with a change in life circumstances, that has now changed. 
I can print . . and not only that, but I can print what I want and when I want to. 
It's marvellous.


© Phil Rogers Dundee, Monochrome Printing, Darkroom, Ilford, Foma,Black And White Printing,Craft,Kodak Selenium Toner,Secol Archival Sleeves
Various 9.5 x 12" prints in Secol sleeves


To that end, and as mentioned recently, I have tried to standardise an archive, and it wasn't the easiest matter.
The problem hit me when I (after much faffing and measuring) printed an 8x8" image from my Hasselblad on 9.5x12" paper. 
I was, to coin a phrase, knocked out
It wasn't so much the sheer image size, but more the print now gave real presence to the Zeiss lens. 
I hadn't been expecting this, after all I had printed on 9.5 x 12" paper before, but this was something else.
I repeated the exercise with the Rollei T's Tessar, and the Minoltor Autocord's Rokkor, and whilst they were good (really good at times) neither had the sheer grit, micro-detail and subtle greys of the Distagons and Sonnars, and Biogon.
I then repeated the exercise with images from my Large Format lenses. 
To say this was a revelation is a bit of an understatement
A 5x4" negative printed on bigger paper with a decent border is a thing to behold.

I have to precursor that though, with the following: 
Up till now, my LF enlarging lens has been a nice 80's-ish 150mm Rodenstock Rodagon. 
It's been fine (despite the obvious scuffs on the front and the back - the latter I believe robbing me of a decent amount of quality) but always left me with an itch I really wanted to scratch. 
To my eyes, every print I have ever made from a 5x4" with the Rodagon has just not had the chutzpah you're supposed to get with Large Format photography. 
The lens was effectively free with my DeVere (God Bless Mr. MXV, wherever you are) and I always just accepted that (as has been written many times) MF and even 35mm lenses produce 'sharper' results than LF. 

Hmmm, well . . . he said stroking his chin. 
I was having a butchers at enlarging lenses on Ebay one day, and, because I believe a lowly 100mm Vivitar is the best enlarging lens I have ever owned (yes, over Leitz and Rodenstock, Durst and Nikon) I came across a 135mm one . . for £32. 
That's not even a brainstorming, sick-on-the-pavement night in the pub these days, so I thought why not. 
And indeed the thing was a complete revelation. 
All the micro-detail, subtle grey nuances and "overall bollocks" (that's a technical term - look it up - it's in "The Negative" . . page 134) that I'd always thought were there on the negatives, were indeed there, but now writ large on big paper. 
Oh boy was I a happy bunny.

And what, you might well be asking yourself, is the big paper?
Well for 'economical' purposes I decided to get 50 sheets of Ilford MGFB and a 10 sheet sample box of Foma 111. 
Why Ilford? 
Well, the colour head mixing settings for different grades are the same as Kentmere RC (and I had a box of that) so I am not having to slice up expensive fibre paper to make test strips and overall, I would say things match up very well
As for Foma, I have never used it before and I have to say I shall be using it again, which is weird because I am not really a fan of their films. 
The paper though has a different look to Ilford. 
Its surface reminds me more of the sheen on Forte's Polywarmtone which I always loved. AND it looks like Fomabrom and Fomaspeed (the RC version) use the same emulsion, so I can use RC for test strips.

OK Sheepy, wtf about dry-down etc, how can you possibly judge things?
 
Well, it is a complex matter, that, dare I say might well have been over-egged over the years. 
If you read around, dry down is a relatively strange thing, running from shifts in the darkest tones (Ansel's "thud") of a print due to: wet prints vs dry prints; heat drying; malevolent forces; changes in emulsion; alien interference etc etc - told you it was complex. 
I always air-dry my prints and have to say I have never noticed any really significant darkening of images and that is over decades of printing. Sure there is a small (as in tiny) amount, but to say this impacts on the quality of the print, is hair-splittingly hairiness of the hairy kind.
A lot of people have said it is commensurate with heat drying and I can see how that might affect things, but I don't heat dry.


Air Drying -secondhand caravan clothes line and plastic pegs!
Left and Right, Ilford Pinned Back To Back method.
Centre, Sheephouse "'Ang It From The Corner Missus" Method


It's also probably anathema to all the cloak-wearing darkroom wizards out there about using RC paper to make a printing judgement for FB paper, but it can be done. 

The greatest printer I ever knew was Joseph McKenzie, and he could make an exposure/grade judgment call just by looking at a negative. That ability came from thousands of hours spent printing; in other words experience
I'm sure the likes of Robin Bell and all the Master Printers out there, doing this for a living can work in the same way too.
For me, I don't have their eyes, so I will decide on my Grade (which as a starting point is nearly always Grade 3 these days) hack up a bit of RC, whack it on the weasel, expose in 4 second increments, whack it in the developer, develop for most of the proper time, give it a wiggle in the stop, whack it in the fix, and slap the lights on after about 15 seconds. 
I can generally make a decent judgement call from this.

You see, although printing is a relatively easy process defined by care, as in:

You have all the ingredients (assuming you have a decent negative) to make an impressive print.

You have all the ingredients (assuming you have a decent negative) to make a dog's dinner.

The darkroom is the GREAT LEVELLER.
That sounds like the name of the horned bloke from 'Legend' or, more to my taste, the name of the horned bloke from Tenacious D's "The Greatest Song In The World".
Why the Great Leveller? 
Because everyone is using pretty much exactly the same stuff, from exhibitions hanging in MOMA, to a couple of prints stuck up in a local cafe.
The difference between famine and feast is your care as a printer. 
You have to be precise and consistent
You have to take care with each stage (yeah I know what I wrote above about my test strips, but I can say that because I have been doing this for a long time).
But the thing is, printing ISN'T rocket science. 
It's a craft skill, like crochet or knitting and anyone can learn a craft skill.
It truly is an egalitarian process.
And whilst these days it is considered to be a luxury craft skill, and boy can it be frustrating when you make mistakes with a sheet of paper costing a couple of quid, on the whole, it is FUN
And educational. 
And, I believe, life-enhancing.
It improves you as a human being, because the care you take in the darkroom, can lend itself to run and rummel of every day life too. 
The precision, order and concentration rub off. 
They really do!
But that is me heading on another of my Sheephousian metaphysical borrocks convos, and we don't want to go there.

So, to round out, here's some straight scans of recent stuff, printed whilst ice formed on the inside of my house's windows, grey skies cemented themselves onto the general milieu of the British psyche and people started another year in a great state of flux and doubt.
If that phrase applies to you, I am sorry - things will get better, just trust that.


5x4" Negative, 
Fomabrom Variant 111, Kodak Selenium, 
Adox Neutol NE Developer

 
5x4" Negative, 
Fomabrom Variant 111, Kodak Selenium, 
Adox Neutol NE Developer


5x4" Negative, 
Fomabrom Variant 111, Kodak Selenium, 
Adox Neutol NE Developer


35mm Negative, 
Ilford MGRC, Heavily toned in Selenium, Then Bleached in Ferri.
Firstcall MG Developer


TTFN old fruitcakes and thank you, once again, from the bottom of my heart, for reading.
Be good and if you can't be good, be careful.
Everything is going to be alright.
H xx