Sunday, May 28, 2023

Clash Of The Titans

Morning folks - hope you are well, I am, and I'm not sure about Herman but I think he might be too.

Long term FB readers (Hellooooo! Coooey!!) will know that over the years I have had regular commenters, who I've always been nice and polite to. 
None of this keyboard angst around here, oh no . . .
One of these is Bruce from The Online Darkroom - an erstwhile, well-written, intelligent and informative blog about all things photography. 
We've communicated now for nigh on 11 years . . but weirdly, despite living close to each other (at one time less than a couple of miles) we have never met. 
Until now . . . well, not now, but a few weeks back.

They always say, try never to meet someone you've only ever 'met' via the internet don't they - I was a bit trepidacious! 
F'rinstance, was it going to be like: 

King Kong vs. Godzilla? 

Alien vs. Predator? 

Ali vs. Frazier? 

Possibly even:

Heidecke vs. Victor??

Was he a:

Nutter?

Conman?

Murderer?

White Slaver?

Down-To-Earth Nice Bloke?

Friends and neighbours held a sweepstake. 
This could be a ding-dong meeting of minds; a grudge match; a decider; the ultimate battle; a terrible mistake; a . . . oh I know, I'll shut up.
Fortunately he was the latter . . . 


© Phil Rogers Dundee,Ilford Delta 400,Hasselblad 40mm CF/FLE Distagon,Hasselblad 500 C/M,Kodak HC 110 Dilution B,Ilford MGRC Pearl,Agfa Neutol NE,
Ancient Gate


. . . And what it did turn out to be was a lovely trip around local countryside with a friend
Truth be told, I had a wonderful time and we talked and laughed and I got to see Bruce in action. 
It was an interesting juxtaposition actually; I had my big Gitzo with Arca ballhead, and then the 500 C/M and a 40mm Distagon in possibly the world's largest shoulder bag. 
Bruce had his Nikon F90X, an AF lens and a small, road-worn Domke bag.

Whilst I planted myself firmly on the planet and took varying readings, he wandered around observing, moving in quickly and getting what he wanted. 
I don't think he knew I was watching, but I was - it was fascinating actually. 

And so the day was whiled away and I don't know about him, but I felt such a sense of ease and good natured bonhomie that I can't wait for the next one. 
And there will be, he just needs an eye problem to resolve itself.

So without much more guff, and without further ado, here are the photographs. 
They're not stunners, but it's hard sometimes to take in new places and photograph them in a satisfactory manner. 
Maybe next time, though the wild garlic will be gone by then.


© Phil Rogers Dundee,Ilford Delta 400,Hasselblad 40mm CF/FLE Distagon,Hasselblad 500 C/M,Kodak HC 110 Dilution B,Ilford MGRC Pearl,Agfa Neutol NE,
Ancient Wall


© Phil Rogers Dundee,Ilford Delta 400,Hasselblad 40mm CF/FLE Distagon,Hasselblad 500 C/M,Kodak HC 110 Dilution B,Ilford MGRC Pearl,Agfa Neutol NE,
Ancient Caravan


© Phil Rogers Dundee,Ilford Delta 400,Hasselblad 40mm CF/FLE Distagon,Hasselblad 500 C/M,Kodak HC 110 Dilution B,Ilford MGRC Pearl,Agfa Neutol NE,
Ancient Dusty Room


© Phil Rogers Dundee,Ilford Delta 400,Hasselblad 40mm CF/FLE Distagon,Hasselblad 500 C/M,Kodak HC 110 Dilution B,Ilford MGRC Pearl,Agfa Neutol NE,
Ancient Dreams 1


© Phil Rogers Dundee,Ilford Delta 400,Hasselblad 40mm CF/FLE Distagon,Hasselblad 500 C/M,Kodak HC 110 Dilution B,Ilford MGRC Pearl,Agfa Neutol NE,
Ancient Dreams 2


© Phil Rogers Dundee,Ilford Delta 400,Hasselblad 40mm CF/FLE Distagon,Hasselblad 500 C/M,Kodak HC 110 Dilution B,Ilford MGRC Pearl,Agfa Neutol NE,
Ancient Dreams 3
(Actually the camera was level)

© Phil Rogers Dundee,Ilford Delta 400,Hasselblad 40mm CF/FLE Distagon,Hasselblad 500 C/M,Kodak HC 110 Dilution B,Ilford MGRC Pearl,Agfa Neutol NE,
Ancient Gate


Film was fresh Delta 400 at EI 200 in HC110 Dilution B, gentle agitation for 30 seconds, then 2 twirls (with the Paterson twirler) every minute to 7 minutes and then let it stand to 10 minutes - gives really lovely results. 

The older I get the more I believe that agitation technique is a key part of developing film. 
I've written about it before, and according to a bunch of pundits, agitation has no effect, but from my point of view, were I to really shake it up with Fomadon R09, I'd end up with pretty dense negatives, so I keep it calm - it's like trying to keep a raging bulldog in its place . . both palms up towards it, calm down lad, calm down . . . 
I also use the Paterson paddle/twirler exclusively these days. 
Imagine you were twisting a spinning top, but very slowly, once to the right, then back to the left. 
That's one 'twirl'. 
My universal technique, is 30 gentle seconds of that, then 2 twirls on every minute.  
I'll also do a semi-stand job - maybe not agitate on the last couple of minutes, and then let the film stand for a couple of minutes over . . my theory being, that because developer exhausts itself on highlights quicker, it will; but then it will continue working on the shadow areas. 
I'd rather have more shadow detail that I can print down when printing.
Hey ho . . it works for me.

Also, I've found that Ralph Gibson's PRINT "Bromide Drag" technique works for a denser negative. 
You basically develop the print to a certain point. 
You'll find your highlights might still be really blank. 
Flip the paper over, turn you safelights out and go and have a breather . . . anywhere between 3 and 7 minutes. 
You come back, slip in, the highlights have emerged. 
You also risk slight fog with this, however in the case of of the print of the wonky frame and outside vegetation (Ancient Dreams 3) I rather like the effect. 
The negative of that was impenetrable - it's denser than a busload of denseness, but 68 seconds on f11 and left to twiddle its thumbs in developer for around 5 extra minutes (over and above normal 'completion time') brought the vegetation out. 
I've only started on this recently, but it probably deserves more research. 
It is though 'a thing' or should I say 'was'? 
Who prints these days?

Anyway, enough. I rather like the prints - to me they're almost a dream sequence.
Weird dream maybe, but a sequence nontheless.
Actually, they're a happy memory too - Thank You Bruce!

Oh and before I forget, the paper was quite old Ilford MGRC Pearl, developed in Adox/Agfa Neutol NE. They're all selenium toned.

And that's it folks - as always, thanks for reading, you've made an old man very happy, or should that be, you've made a happy man very old . . . .



6 comments:

  1. On another forum, they are extremely keen on developing film in very dilute developer, with little agitation, for extended times. The benefits are supposed to be improved mid-tone contrast with full box speed and better control of highlights. If we invert our thinking from negative to positive, would something similar help with your undeveloping highlights in the print. Enough time for to make and consume a bacon sandwich perhaps? No time wasted at all.

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    1. Hermansheephouse30 May 2023 at 05:42

      Hi David - long time no hear - hope you are well!
      By all accounts you get bromide drag on negatives stand developed - have to say though, about 14 mins is my limit of patience with film - always itching to see what is on there.
      As for the print technique - Gibson describes it on pages 67 and 68 of Darkroom 1. He reckons it gives him half grades - of course those were the days of graded papers, however I have found it to bring out something that might not have looked like it were there had I just stopped it at the usual point. I suppose it is a bit like flashing, pre-exposure. Needs experiments though!
      At the end of the day, I enjoy darkroom work, so any more time spent in there is a pleasure.
      Cheers!

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  2. A pic of you two, just like Reinhold and Victor, would have been apt. Next time maybe ;)

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    1. Hermansheephouse31 May 2023 at 22:34

      Hi Omar - hope you are well. I know, I thought of that after the event!

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  3. Selfies, or it didn't happen! Actually, I had thought you knew each other in 'real life' because you don't live far from each other.
    A nice set of pictures. I especially like the ancient caravan. Looks like a good place to hide and be forgotten by the world.

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    1. Hermansheephouse10 June 2023 at 06:11

      Hi Marcus - it definitely happened and yeah we'd never met in all that time!
      The caravan might have been nice had the floor not been entirely rotten and the whole place hadn't been being marked by foxes..

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